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I'm so ashamed...

Prop 1 in Maine looks to have gone the way of Prop 8 in California. The legs of my legislature have been amputated, like those of California's court. This is a travesty, and I am embarrassed by it.

I hate that I was right about this. Still, though hate and fear won today, I do not believe they will win forever. This majority was only 52.9 percent of the vote. That's something. Fear has won this battle, but I hope not the war. As for me, well... I might have been on the losing side - still not convinced it was the wrong side.

I can only hope that one day my Supreme Court or my President will prove that. To tomorrow!

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cleothemuse
Nov. 4th, 2009 03:33 pm (UTC)
Welcome to the rest of the United States of Bigoted Bastards...
jackwabbit
Nov. 4th, 2009 04:11 pm (UTC)
I hear ya. Amen. What gets me is that popular opinion should have no place in human rights issues. And for me, the matter of gay marriage is a human rights issue. Unless we take away all government context to marriage, and make it a purely religious institution (in which case it can be granted to only penguins and flamingos for all I care - you can define it how you want then), we cannot deny it to some of our citizens just because it suits us.

Sigh...
cleothemuse
Nov. 4th, 2009 04:39 pm (UTC)
As a very hilarious friend of mine says (though she's usually referring to the Good Ol' Boy Small Town we live in) "the only way things're gonna change? People have to die".

Of course, she doesn't mean that in a Karl Marx-ish, viva la revolución way, but from a generational standpoint. The majority of people born in the 70s and later are OK with gay rights, even if they themselves are not gay... it's the voters born before then...

(We're still shocked our Southern Baptist small town passed a ordinance to allow alcohol to be served in restaurants. Shocked.)
jackwabbit
Nov. 5th, 2009 12:16 am (UTC)
Too true.

Then again, I guess that's always the way, no?
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jackwabbit
Nov. 5th, 2009 12:17 am (UTC)
One day, Americans will join the rest of the so-called "civilized" world...I hope. If not, I'm going to the icon place!
charlie_bz
Nov. 4th, 2009 08:50 pm (UTC)
That is depressing news. I still for the life of me cannot figure out why anyone cares whom marries whom. I hear the argument about "weakening" traditional marriage and also can't figure that out either.

"Live and let live, that's my motto." so sayeth Dale Arden.
jackwabbit
Nov. 5th, 2009 12:18 am (UTC)
I don't get it, either. And of course I have to quantify that by saying that I'm heterosexual for it to have any meaning. Because you know that if I were gay, I'd be ONE OF THEM and my opinion would be that of the enemy. Sigh...

I simply cannot wrap my brain around it. I just cannot see the problem. I was raised in a very religious home, and I still just don't get it.

But alas...one day, right?
lolmac
Nov. 4th, 2009 08:55 pm (UTC)
As you know, it's a very personal issue for me . . . although I honestly don't really expect to gain full legal status as a human being in my own lifetime. And there's a real excitement to watching even the small steps forward.

Humanity won out here in Washington state. Wanna switch coasts?
jackwabbit
Nov. 5th, 2009 12:22 am (UTC)
Too true. Baby steps, I guess. Way to go Washington! Woo-hoo!

And you never know. I might trade coasts eventually.

But you know what, Beth? I have my doubts about your human being status...but they have nothing to do with this topic. *g*

Seriously, though, I predict we will see at least this aspect of your humanity win out in your lifetime. However, it will take a supreme court ruling. I truly believe that. It will be a Roe v. Wade or Brown v. Board of Education ruling. That's the only way this will happen as it should. Public opinion cannot be allowed to condone the majority exerting tyranny over the minority. The court needs to step in and smack down and say "I'm sorry, but this is wrong and we don't care if the majority of our citizens don't like that, we won't stand for it." Just my two cents.

But if not, there's always our neighbors to the north, right?
lolmac
Nov. 5th, 2009 01:23 am (UTC)
I have my doubts about your human being status...
You've been peeking! You've seen me in the morning, before I get coffee!!

And truly, Vive la Canada!

My gut says it won't be the Supreme Court -- or, at least, not until we've gotten legal status in a critical mass of individual states. True progress is going to happen when the current crop of people between the ages of 15 and 30 become the movers and shakers, the makers of laws and the deciders of mainstream attitude. That's the group that is deeply mystified by all the fuss over why the plumbing has anything to do with the heart.
lemonpiefirefly
Nov. 5th, 2009 02:14 am (UTC)
"Deeply mystified" is correct. There are many issues for which I can wiggle and writhe out of my skin and manage to see the other side enough to kind of 'get it', even if I may vehemently disagree.
The ONLY bits to this I can remotely get are fear of change and fear of the unknown.
There isn't a single logical argument to this. At all.
This is absolutely a human rights issue, given its protected legal status, and majority rule WITH MINORITY RIGHTS!!! Hello!?! Ring a damn bell?
*I will calm down. I will calm down*
*who am I kidding?*
(the boyfriend is wandering around the house singing 'you know that you want to be Canadian'
jackwabbit
Nov. 5th, 2009 02:32 am (UTC)
I'm too busy NaNo'ing right now to make a qualified statement here, BUT...I just want to use this icon again. That's all. Ahem. Yes, just using the icon. Ahem.
lolmac
Nov. 5th, 2009 06:57 am (UTC)
Well, the icon rocks. I've always loved it. *G*

And, ahem, you haven't yet clarified your remark on your doubts about my status as a human being. Hrrmmmm???
jackwabbit
Nov. 6th, 2009 03:24 am (UTC)
It's simple, my dear. You are far to witty to be a simple human.

No one could be so lovely and be all homo sapiens.
lolmac
Nov. 6th, 2009 07:21 am (UTC)
Um. Oh. *iz pink* How about being a complex human?

I promise, I'm not played by identical twins, nor am I actually a cyborg. Um, I'm just me.
jackwabbit
Nov. 9th, 2009 05:56 pm (UTC)
Uh-huh. Sure you are. Whatever you say, dear.
buzybee06
Nov. 5th, 2009 02:50 pm (UTC)
I hear you. It seems the State of Maine is run but morons sometimes.
jackwabbit
Nov. 6th, 2009 03:24 am (UTC)
Too true. Not exclusive to Maine, though...sigh...
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