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As a died-in-the wool Trekkie and fan of all the series (except Enterprise simply because I am uneducated in it and thus have no opinion), I enjoyed the latest incarnation of Trek.

Was it Yesterday's Enterprise?

No. (Sorry, couldn't help it.)

Was it enjoyable?

Yes.

I loved the subtle nods to all of the series in their own way (and they were subtle - not in your face and distracting for non-Trekkies - with the exception of the Enterprise nod, which even I got). And the Galaxy Quest homage? Niiiiiice.

And there was Pauley! (Blink and you'll miss him!)

There was one thing that bothered me, but I can live with it. That is the Spock/Uhura thing they had going on.  I wasn't exactly squicked by it, but I'm not entirely on board, either...and it was a bit too in your face for me.  Subtlety would have made this much more palatable for me, but again, I wasn't repulsed.  Just...not sure if I'd order seconds.  EDIT: In thinking more on this, I do like it for what it gave us (read Kirk's reaction) and I do like that it fleshed out Uruha even more than she already was in this film...more about her than the ship.  Hm...growing on me, this idea is, but I stay with still a bit much for me.  For now...

The 90210 aspects that I was concerned with prior to seeing the film were not terrible, so that was good.

Oh, and the guy who played Bones? Karl Urban? Sure, his looks were off a bit, but he could be painted purple and running around naked, and I'd still think he was Leonard McCoy. Man alive, that man deserves a medal. His voice was spot-on and his mannerisms were PERFECT. Loved him. Can't say enough about how absolutely brilliant he was. Love, love, love, love, love. Yep, five - as always, my highest rating.

Quinto as Spock was also dead on, but not as perfect as Bones.

Pine as Kirk? Hm...was very much my hesitation in seeing this film. Too pin-up and too much with the punk kid thing, you know? But...the more I looked at him, the more I saw it. I'm fine with it. Just enough Shat to be livable and not enough to be a burden.

Scotty? Sorry, Simon...good, but not fab and you know why. *goes to read why he did the accent that way again* Very livable, though, and I still love my Pegg. Honestly, this is a minor point. I am not a Trek nit-picker (seriously, lighten up, people). New portrayal, new accent. Ok...but...not quite 100% for me. Then again, we didn't see you much, so...uncertain.

Uhura and Chekov - meh on acting/casting, though I loved Chekov's mad dash through the ship to work the transporters. So very ST4. Also, Uhura...love how they portrayed her with the exception of that one glitch I mentioned above (which is again growing on me, as is the casting here). In TOS, Uhura was a glorified secretary, easy on the glory. In this film, she is educated, ballsy, and poised. Loved that.

Sulu - I was pleased, but we didn't see enough for me to make a valid decision. A little too bad ass with the sword, but we know he likes to use one, so I was ok with it. (Witness The Naked Time if you must.) And his little grin at the end? Sigh...we stand ready to assist you, Enterprise.

Sarek - seamless, and that is truly a compliment.

They sure set it up for more, and I like how they did that. Don't have to worry about continuity in an AU, huh? Just treat this film like a separate entity and you'll be fine. I went into it with that mindset, and as far as I'm concerned, this one can live long and prosper. Nice work. As for the sure-to-come sequels, we shall see.

Moving on:

THE END CREDITS ARE LOVE. Musically, that is. And look, there's Paul McGillion, as Barracks Master.

Sigh...

As for the story itself, it was fine.  Not exactly knocking my socks off, but perfectly acceptable.  I'm a character girl, folks. Plot can suck it to characters any day.  In that vein, I loved this film.

Oh, and one more thing. The direct quote from ST6, my fave ST film? Beauty.

Alright, now for the moment of truth, very much off the cuff (though it really is apples and oranges, I shall endeavor to function adequately): Undiscovered Country > 2009 > Kahn > Insurrection > First Contact >> Nemesis >>> Voyage Home > Generations > Search for Spock > Final Frontier > The Motion Picture.

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sache8
May. 10th, 2009 04:19 am (UTC)
You know...

Peter Jackson said something in an interview long before any of us had seen the first of the LotR movie trilogy. Something to the effect of (and I am beyond paraphrasing here) "I could try really hard to make this movie into something that would please all the fans, but if I did, what we'd end up with is a watered-down version that wouldn't excite anybody. I consider myself just one fan lucky enough to take what I value most of LotR and present it to the rest of the world in a really dynamic way." From that moment, I was determined to if not love the LotR movies, at the very least respect them, because I thought it was a very healthy and mature attitude of him to take. And of course, I ended up loving the movies.

I guess I'm just impressed by the overall reaction I'm getting from honest, heart-and-soul Trek fans, such as yourself and such as Seb, about this movie. That being, "It was great! Here are the five or six details I would have done differently!" without an overwhelming bucketloads of resentment or malice. It makes me... happy. :-)

I'm a casual Trek fan, at best. I know the basic characters and their relationships to each other, the basic premise, approximately 1.5 episodes of TOS and all of the movies, and while it never sucked up my soul the way subsequent fandoms have, I totally respect its place in the hallowed halls of geekdom history. I kind of thought you might be interested in my thoughts on Spock/Uhura, based on your wavering feelings cited here, most specifically: and I do like that it fleshed out Uruha even more than she already was in this film...more about her than the ship. I'm going to be lazy and directly post my thought's on the matter as I typed up in shadow2serenity's LJ yesterday:
I think the reason I sucked up the Spock/Uhura thing so willingly (besides being a chronic shipper, but you already know that about me) was that I just found the idea of this sensible, talented, beautiful girl being so confident and secure that she would totally ignore the hot meat (read: Kirk) and get drawn in by the quiet and mysterious one to be utterly refreshing. For me, it's more about her than it is about them, if that makes sense. The ship didn't play to me like "We must have a romance!!" (even if that was its intention, very possible), but rather like "Here are two people who just happen to be involved and caught up in the same adventure at the same time." I am all about the: "I am Uhura the fleshed-out-character, not the mini-skirt and go-go- boots" love. Perhaps I am too judgmental, though. Admittedly, as I said in my own post, I haven't really seen enough of TOS Uhura to know.


If you want some entertainment, you can go read my utterly hyperactive initial reaction post from yesterday. Hahaha. It's going to make me laugh for years to come.

Karl Urban was amazing. I know what you mean about his performance. Karl Urban is one of the actors I fangirl in a huge way and not once in the movie did I fixate on "Squee!! Karl Urban!!" which really says something because I am an extremely shallow and immature fangirl when it comes to my boys. *glances at Eomer poster hanging three feet away on closet door* I was so thrilled when he got this part because he was finally being given a role that was not the "Testosterone Now" poster boy character. He got a chance to flex his acting muscles in a huge way, and he didn't just answer the call, he hit a grand slam out of the park and into the next state.

Um, when exactly is Paul's cameo, plot-wise? Because I had my eyes open for him the whole movie and didn't spot him. I'm going again tomorrow afternoon with my mom.
jackwabbit
May. 10th, 2009 04:33 am (UTC)
I'm beyond exhausted right now, and I'm typing this on my phone in bed, so no real response at the moment, but suffice to say my edit was partially based on your comment. I read seb's post as soon as I'd written mine. I hadn't done so yet because of spoilers. I almost answered you there, but just...so...sleepy.

Need to respond to seb, too...zzzzz.

Apologies to all if I make no sense above and the ranking, well, one moment in time.

Oh, Pauley is the guy who tells Kirk he's on suspension when they are shipping out. Hubby spotted him, I must confess. I had my eyes peeled, too, but I blinked.

Also: great icon. Poor dog. ;)

Edited at 2009-05-10 07:59 pm (UTC)
sache8
May. 11th, 2009 03:38 am (UTC)
I found Paul! Yay! I realize now that I didn't spot him because (a) what he's saying, though brief, is so plot-crucial in the moment that you don't really focus on the speaker and (b) he is sans Scottish accent! lol

I also ONLY JUST GOT THE RED-SHIRT THING when I was watching the paratrooper scene the second time around. And then I laughed for a while. Both at the joke and at myself, quietly in my seat. ;-) What do you mean Galaxy Quest nod, btw? How could I miss a Galaxy Quest nod? Am I so very obtuse? *sigh*

Haha, I love that icon too, and I can't believe I've used it as much as I have! (granted, this movie gave me a pretty unexpected opportunity). I'm really fond of this one too, which I had commissioned after my Voyager binge last summer.

jackwabbit
May. 11th, 2009 04:09 am (UTC)
Oh! Naomi! How lovely!

And yes, I agree with you on spotting him. There is just so much going on that you aren't paying attention to the speaker, and he has the hat and all that.

And yes, no accent. You do know Paul does not speak with an accent in real life, right?

And OMG YES! The red shirt. I must confess that I missed it, too at first. I was obsessing over why they were all wearing different color suits (one gold, one blue, one red) for the longest time. Then it hit me. Awesome.

As for GQ, I'm probably making it up. It probably was not on purpose. BUT...when the Enterprise first jumps out of warp over Vulcan into the remains of the fleet, and the one large piece of debris (saucer section of some ship?) scrapes slowly over the nacelle, all I could think of was Tommy piloting the Protector out of spacedock. That and Sulu forgetting to turn off the external inertial dampeners to begin with reminded me of my favorite homage/parody movie of all time.
sache8
May. 11th, 2009 04:29 am (UTC)
Hehe, yeah, I knew his Scottish accent wasn't real, but it's just so good (I guess having the parents more than helped out - haha) and I've only heard his 'real' accent a handful of times in interviews (have not yet seen ADB) that my brain is just stuck on expecting to hear it come out of him.

And yes, to avoid convoluting this thread any further, I'll say in this comment, that I adored Naomi Wildman from her birth all the way up to her future self in that ep where the ship is all fractured into different time periods (did you know the actress who played grown-up Naomi was one of the ones who slaps Jack Sparrow in the first PotC? haha). Naomi rocks. I only actually made one Voyager vid, and it was entirely focused on the children of Voyager (Naomi and the Borg kids) and their most special mentors, Seven and Neelix. So yeah. I kind of heart Naomi in a huge ol' way. LOL
jackwabbit
May. 11th, 2009 04:36 am (UTC)
YAY! I like Naomi, too, but not to your level. I adore Janeway, though. I know she has her naysayers, but I'm not one.

You should check out ADB. It's most excellent. (And with that, my squirrel duty is done!)

I love Paul's accent.

He talked about his role as Carson and having to say all the medical stuff in a Scots voice. This is exactly what he said to my memory:

"I've got a brother who's a doctor. So, I'd call him up and I'd say 'what's this word, what does it mean, and can you say it with a Scottish accent?'"

It was awesome. Yeah, I miss that perfect accent. Hearing it every day growing up from parents and your five older sibs will do that to ya, I suppose.
jackwabbit
May. 10th, 2009 10:00 pm (UTC)
PS-I don't know who Karl Urban is. Never heard of him. Had to look him up. *cringes, with a feeling she just pulled what seb did below with me and Pauley*
sache8
May. 11th, 2009 03:35 am (UTC)
Hee! Well... now you know! ;-)

Truthfully, I've only seen about a third of his work, but back in the LotR heyday my crush was so strong that among our little circle I was referred to as "The Rightful Queen of Rohan."
jackwabbit
May. 11th, 2009 04:12 am (UTC)
Ah! I get it now! I'm not a huge Ringer (passing knowledge at best), so I had no idea. BTW, another nice icon. Naomi Wildman was an interesting character, huh?
jackwabbit
May. 10th, 2009 10:01 pm (UTC)
Oh, and here ya go, luv. Posted elsewhere in the thread, but posting for you special here.

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shadow2serenity
May. 10th, 2009 01:14 pm (UTC)
Well, if you have indeed read my recap, you can see we agree on pretty much everything except Quinto. ;) But, uh....who the heck is Pauley? (The character I get, the actor not so much.)

I read in TV Guide that J.J. is already confirmed to produce the sequel. Come a day even Scotty won't be able to keep Paramount's capitalism flying. :P
jackwabbit
May. 10th, 2009 08:08 pm (UTC)
Yes, I did read your recap, and I did agree with it for the most part. I've thought more about this film today and talked it over with a friend and read more recaps and talked to more fans online and, well...yeah...thumbs up from me.

Now, moving on:

Paul McGillion is the actor who played Carson Beckett in Stargate Atlantis. He's guested on The X-Files, Stargate SG-1, and lots of other things. He's one of the stars of the Indie film A Dog's Breakfast, written and directed by David Hewlett (Rodney McKay on Stargate Atlantis). He's also in another Indie film entitled See Grace Fly and lots of other things here and there.

But most of us know him as Carson Beckett.

That's how I know him for the most part. Carson was how I learned of Paul, but then I explored many of this other roles and I truly appreciate his work in general.

However, much like Nathan Fillion, I am not a Paul McGillion fan for anything he's done on screen nearly as much as I am for what he's done off of it.

Nathan Fillion is PJ Haarsma's friend, so I'm in his camp. That's pretty much all it boils down to. I like him plenty for many other reasons, and I wouldn't "know" PJ if not for Nate, but the reason I'm a true Fillionaire now is because of PJ and KNTR and some things that have happened to me personally off screen, etc.

And that's why I love Pauley, too.

I met Paul McGillion at a con some time ago. Now, I've met a fair number of stars, but no one (NO ONE) has ever been nicer or more personable or sweeter to me than Paul McGillion.

I loved him as an actor, and I was a huge Carson fan before I ever met Paul, but afterward...let's just say I'm Pauley's girl. Paul has continued to amaze me in the years since I met him. He took the time to call thirteen fans (one of whom was my BFF lemonpiefirefly) stuck in a hotel room at a canceled con. He made a video for a friend of mine.

In short, he's a fan's star.

He had a short cameo in this film as a consolation for not getting the role of Scotty in the final callback.

Edited at 2009-05-10 08:09 pm (UTC)
sache8
May. 11th, 2009 03:33 am (UTC)
I thought I'd add a footnote to jackwabbit's excellent summation, that he was the preferred choice of James Doohan's son for the role of Scotty after the auditions, which I think was so cool. All we of the Stargate camp were cheering desperately for him, despite Mr. Pegg's more prominent popularity. ;-)
jackwabbit
May. 11th, 2009 04:05 am (UTC)
You know...I've been very careful what I say here...because everyone knows I'm Pauley's girl. But...whilst I ADORE Simon (Have you seen Spaced? How could you not adore Simon?), and while I've read his explanation of the accent several times and while I don't think he did anything bad, he was a weak Scotty IMHO.

Part of that is likely just that we didn't get to see him much, and part of that is because the other characters were so perfectly cast that having one who wasn't stuck out, but...Simon, it hurts me to say this...you know how much I love you...but...not the best choice.

I'd like to say Pauley would have been a better choice, but having not seen it, we'll never know.

I just know Simon wasn't quite doing it for me.

Thank you for the footnote, as it is an important one.
sache8
May. 11th, 2009 04:14 am (UTC)
Hehe, hey, I'm not arguing! :-) I didn't even know who Simon Pegg was until he got cast, so I was pretty sour for a moment. He's a very funny guy and all, but part of me honestly wonders if he didn't get the preference for his slightly more pop-culture appeal. Even though I've not seen it, I know that Sean of the Dead is still gleaning afterglow benefits of popularity, and the fanbase isn't all that far skewed from the genre film lover core. He was The Name. That was my gut at the time and it still is. I enjoyed him, but he didn't make or break things for me. Though he certainly did resonate a lot more when they got him in the correct get-up. LOL


jackwabbit
May. 11th, 2009 04:18 am (UTC)
Agreed. Neither make nor break.

I love Shaun of the Dead. I love, love, love Hot Fuzz. And Spaced is MADE of awesome.

So, I love Simon Pegg as much as the next Peggster.

But yeah...not so much here. And I do think the name gave him a leg up. I heard Pauley talk about this at a con just after the casting was announced. He was very professional about it and didn't have a single bad word to say about anyone. That's when I first learned of his cameo. He said he'd taken it in the spirit in which it was meant (we loved you but decided to go another way). Still, though...wouldn't it have been great to see Pauley as Scotty? I don't know if it would have worked or not. We'll never know. But I know I'd have paid tons of money to see it.

I need to watch me some Poisoning The Well now...sigh...
jackwabbit
May. 11th, 2009 05:23 am (UTC)
Ok, been watching Pauley vids...WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???

Yes, I've changed my mind. I haven't edited the original post, because, really, it was minor - I still loved the movie and want to see it again, but...but...but...WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???

I have serious Simon love, but...WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???

*rant over*

Edited at 2009-05-11 05:24 am (UTC)
jackwabbit
May. 10th, 2009 08:12 pm (UTC)
PS-asking me about Pauley is truly opening a can of worms, you know.

paul mcgillion

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Edited at 2009-05-10 08:14 pm (UTC)
jackwabbit
May. 10th, 2009 08:22 pm (UTC)
No, really. A can of worms. My Summer Glau, you know?

Here's his cameo part:

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And I'm beyond aware that he'll be at Dragon*Con!!! SQUEE!
sgteam14283
May. 12th, 2009 12:30 am (UTC)
Oh, and the guy who played Bones? Karl Urban? Sure, his looks were off a bit, but he could be painted purple and running around naked, and I'd still think he was Leonard McCoy. Man alive, that man deserves a medal. His voice was spot-on and his mannerisms were PERFECT. Loved him. Can't say enough about how absolutely brilliant he was. Love, love, love, love, love. Yep, five - as always, my highest rating.

Indeed. I knew him from LOTR, Riddick, Doom, etc. and already loved him but by the end of the first scene I was like 'can I have your babiez plez?'

with the exception of the Enterprise nod, which even I got

poor Porthos! :(

And there was Pauley! (Blink and you'll miss him!)

I saw, I (quietly) squeed. ^-^

Scotty? Sorry, Simon...good, but not fab and you know why.

yeah, me too. Although like you said we didn't see alot of him so that's still up in the air. I caught one time where the accent slipped and when I first heard him I kept thinking "Carson!" and waiting for an 'easy-peasy'. What can I say I'm an incurable Carons fan :)
jackwabbit
May. 12th, 2009 01:21 am (UTC)
Seriously, Urban was phenomenal.

Uh-oh, you go the Porthos nod. Now you need a new reason to justify seeing it again! (No, you don't. It's just that awesome.)

Yay for Pauley squee!

Simon...well...read the rest of the thread. Sigh...

*come monday, it'll be alright...*
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