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Stargate Fans: A Question

So. Stargate. The one that made me. The one that gave me so many of you.

The one that inspired Gatecon, where many of you have met before.

Gatecon, the con that led to these comments being copied and pasted into a private entry here in 2008 entitled "Things to Make You Smile..."

From Lothi: *kidnaps Wabbit and smuggles in to Gatecon in a dufflebag*

From MacGyverGrrl:  And we definitely need Wabbit.

From MacBeth:  Re: Gatecon.  On LJ: Next year we have to get wabbit out as well!  And on MOL: Yes! We must have wabbit next year!!  And: My classical music education has shockingly lacked Jimmy Buffett to date, but I can see I’ll have to resolve that error. Especially since we are going to get wabbit to Gatecon if we have to kidnap her!


(I find it humorous, by the way, that lolmac is the only one who knew better than to capitalize my name then. No big W's for wabbit! *grin* But I digress.)

Gatecon, the con that is having a reunion next fall.

A reunion that is taking place THE WEEK AFTER DRAGON CON.

A reunion I cannot very much most likely cannot go to if I go to Dragon Con.

Dammit life. If that isn't an approach-approach conflict, I don't know what is.

So, friends, I need advice. And more importantly, I need to know who among you is planning on going to Gatecon.

Because I love you guys, and I'd love to see you. If you're going to Gatecon, the con I missed so many times, it will affect whether or not I go.

Here is my dilemma/my thoughts on this issue.

For Gatecon:
One, I've never been to Vancouver. It's a nice place to visit, and I'd like to go. I have friends who live nearby and would love to see them, too. Two, it's where the Hoodies (sans moi) originally became friends, so that's pretty cool. Three, it's a television pilgrimage. Four, it's something different to do, rather than just the same thing every year. Five, friends, friends, friends. If some of you guys go - some of you I don't get to see often/ever - that would be amazing. And six, a huge lineup of Gate stars. Oh, and seven, I guess, there's a limited number of tickets, so not such a huge crowd, either. Plus, there won't be another one these, or rarely if so.

Against Gatecon:
Missing Dragon Con. Missing that set of my friends, especially sonria. And I've seen most of the Gate people before. And frankly, I'd almost prefer to visit Vancouver without a con going on, so I can sit on Petra's porch for days. Because Petra. Also, limited tickets is both good and bad. I like those crazy crowds! Sometimes.

For Dragon Con:
One, um, it's Dragon Con. It's amazing in and of itself. And it's like an old friend. I know the drill. I love that place. Two, I have already committed (loosely, granted) to what I think will be a very fun group cosplay, and I hate to bail on that. Three, cosplay in general - not so much as a single focus con. Four, Dr. Horrible Live. I am so looking forward to this already. I want to go play! This is huge for me. I want to help werewulf out and I want to sing and dance and run through the crowd and quack like a duck and be a badass member of the ELE. Four, likely some actors/writers, etc, I'd like to see. Plus, next year - Oh, the Star Wars! Because seriously, Star Wars.

Against Dragon Con:
Missing Gatecon. And I'm not that big into some of the panels, parties, etc so much anymore. And Dragon Con will be there when I return. (Though I'll have to wait until 2018 for more Dr Horrible Live! Waaaah!)

What it really all boils down to is this: something new or something comfortable. I'm a fan of both. And cosplay. And friends. Thus, the dilemma.

A little help, LJ? Who's going?

lothithil, if you were in, I'd move heaven and earth to give you a hug, because we've never met, despite your friendship for years and years and years, and guests like you are what have mattered at cons to me for years. lolmac, I'd love to see you again. dragonfly_sg1, you are one of my oldest Stargate friends, and how cool would this be? arctict, you gave me one of my most memorable moments in fandom the one time I met you in New Jersey. cleothemuse, you rock. devra_01? dieastra? oneofaradia (though I suspect you'll stay with your local con - that big one named after a giant reptile)? slamaina? People I'm forgetting?

So, thoughts, hive mind?

Tickets go on sale this Sunday. I don't know if they'll sell out right away, but I think there's a chance of that, so I suspect I may need to make a decision soon. lemonpiefirefly and taj_mahal07 are going to Gatecon, so I need a new roommate for Dragon Con if I stay the usual course, but that's workable.

Anyway, thoughts, Gaters?

Comments

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dieastra
Oct. 2nd, 2015 11:50 am (UTC)
Sorry, don’t count on me. I am totally broke at the moment (bank account deep in the red) and definitely can’t afford flying overseas. I paid 1.600 Dollars for air fare last time – each time.
Also, seeing the three of them together at Fedcon last year has been the closure to the fandom for me somehow. It can’t get any better than that. Actually that is not quite true, the love was re-kindled for a short time and I did a DVD re-watch and ordered some more books that had come out in the meantime… I even bought a ticket for a con where I finally would have seen Carmen Argenziano and David Hewlett… but then with the cancellation of that other con only three days before it was supposed to happen and me losing a lot of money that put a dumper on things I guess. I have moved on to new fandoms which are more important for me to spend my money.

Vancouver IS a lovely city though. With or without a con, make sure to visit it one day. Also lots of MacGyver and Stargate locations everywhere. Maybe one day I’ll be able to come back and see all the things I missed last time.
jackwabbit
Oct. 2nd, 2015 12:08 pm (UTC)
Fair enough.

Cons stopped being about the "stars" ages ago for me. Yes, I still do a few things, but mostly I want to see my friends that I rarely get to see.

I figured you'd be out. Too far and all that. But I knew you went before, so just putting out some feelers.
dieastra
Oct. 2nd, 2015 12:28 pm (UTC)
The first time RDA was announced for Gatecon in 2008 I wanted to skip it originally. I already had seen him in the UK at Avalon (his first ever). But as you say, the more friends said they were going the more I realized this is my only chance to see them all in one place – especially the American friends. Plus at Gateworld they already started planning things in groups, like going to THAT restaurant and eat steak there ;) So this was a huge draw, also Vancouver itself and to see all those places I knew from TV. And we had a blast.

I haven’t even checked which other stars are there going to be this time, I only know about Rick, Amanda and Michael.

I didn’t like the Gatecon very much. Too many guests, too much going on at the same time, I missed lots while standing in lines for photographs, and six people on stage at the same time is way too much. Until they all had answered one question, it was half an hour later. Also the Gatecon DVD which we paid for and then took years to arrive, was awful quality. I have seen way better DVDs. So, the organizers did not make the best impression on me.

The one that was called “Meet the Man” also organized by the GABIT people (as this one is if I am not mistaken? Or is it the old Gatecon people?) was amazing. Only 300 tickets (which weren’t even sold completely I think) made for a very relaxed and familiar con. You don’t get rushed through the autograph session, you can take your time – Rick and I even played miniature hockey, and he played with my friend’s Jack figure and bike. So if it is indeed the GABIT people and I think it is if you say it is limited to 300 – I would vote for it. Trying something new certainly can’t hurt. They are still on the top of my list of favorite convention organizers ever. What they did with Avalon in 2006 in the UK was amazing. Sometimes it’s the little things that count.

I can’t imagine ever going to something like Dragon con. Compared to that, even our Fedcon with 5,000 – 6,000 is rather small I guess. And they have William Shatner next year…
jackwabbit
Oct. 3rd, 2015 02:48 am (UTC)
Good feedback. Thanks!

And yeah, Dragon Con's 70,000 is crazy, but so much fun! It's a totally different type of con. You have to make choices in what you want to do. Once I went to Dragon Con, I knew I was done with, say, Creation cons. I like the fact that everyone can go do something different and have different adventures. That not everyone does the same thing. That there's not just one stage, etc. One fandom, one stage, etc, seems pretty boring to me now.

But it's a great way to introduce new fans to cons and there's something to be said for the lack of stress that lack of choice brings. Still, I like my Dragon Con. I like cosplaying a different fandom every day (oh, let's be honest, several fandoms a day) and such. So, it's pros and cons, like everything in life.

We shall see.
lolmac
Oct. 4th, 2015 01:55 am (UTC)
I'm pretty sure this Gatecon is run by the Gatecon folks, not GABIT, although I could be mistaken.
jackwabbit
Oct. 4th, 2015 03:04 am (UTC)
Agreed.
dieastra
Oct. 4th, 2015 06:44 am (UTC)
It's possible I was mixing this up then. As there was also talk about a new GABIT event, but happening in London? Or was that supposed to be Gatecon as well?

I'm really pretty much out of the loop regarding those things to be honest. Sorry for the confusion wabbit.
jackwabbit
Oct. 4th, 2015 08:21 am (UTC)
No worries.

I have no idea about any of this stuff. I just got an email from a friend about it. Otherwise, I'd have no clue.

I don't keep up with cons other than my local ones and Dragon Con, and those only a few times a year.
lolmac
Oct. 4th, 2015 02:22 pm (UTC)
Solved it with a little Googling -- GABIT is holding its 9th AT event in London in October 2016.

GABIT was always a UK-based group focused on Amanda Tapping, doing small, beautifully organized, one-person-focused events (the acronym stands for "Get Amanda Back in Town"). They ran Avalon, and came to Canada and did the Sanctuary and MTM events there as well. I think they may have had some cooperative teamwork going with the Gatecon group for the Canada gigs, but they're definitely a different organization.

I've attended two Gatecons and one GABIT event, and I'd hand GABIT the gold statue for con-running, hands down. (Although they both beat Creation by a massive margin.)

My main problem with Gatecon, which wasn't an issue at my first one but really dampened my enthusiasm on the second, is that I found the regular Gategoers an incredibly clique-ish group. This was in full display on the last Gatecon, because it was officially The Last One; I suspect that it will be just as strong for the Gatecon Reunion.
dieastra
Oct. 4th, 2015 02:57 pm (UTC)
There was supposed to be a Gatecon UK in November but it has been cancelled due to lack of interest / not enough sold tickets: http://forum.gateworld.net/threads/90280-GATECON-UK-The-Return-12-15-November-2015

I think with shows so long off the air it's bound to happen that people move on, and even the dedicatest fan says I already saw them all, and they have nothing new to tell, as nothing new happens. The Torchwood fandom is really different in that regard, still going so strong years after - and having been rewarded with new material via audioplays now.

I think GABIT was only responsible for the RDA part of Gatecon, since they had worked with him before and he knew to trust them.

I found the regular Gategoers an incredibly clique-ish group

That too. It did not bother me at the convention itself, as I was surrounded by so many friends and people I knew, and had my own clique to hang out with, so I had no reason to try and seek out others. I noticed before and after in the Gateworld-Forum though. The way some posts were written. All this "we were there from the beginnings a few days after 9/11 which made a close knit family and nobody that wasn't there will ever understand" stuff.

jackwabbit
Oct. 4th, 2015 09:30 pm (UTC)
Huh. I don't think the fans being twats would bother me much, but I actually made my decision last night. I'm letting this one go.

I'm not real keen on it for a number of reasons, and the fact that I had to make a decision a year ahead of time made me nix it.
dragonfly_sg1
Oct. 2nd, 2015 03:50 pm (UTC)
I'd LOVE to go. Meeting up for a weekend with Stargate friends I've never met in person, or rarely see sounds fabulous. Stargate was the first fandom I really participated in and can credit to more than one cherished friendship.

However, upon seeing the cost AND there are only 1000 tickets available, realistically, it probably just won't happen for me. I can't buy the ticket this weekend and I doubt they'll last long :( (I did just see they have a payment plan option. Still unlikely I'll commit.)

I know that oneofaradia is going with a group and already has a room :)

Edit: That said...*whines* I also don't want to give an absolute "NOT GOING" yet. lol


Edited at 2015-10-02 03:59 pm (UTC)
jackwabbit
Oct. 3rd, 2015 02:45 am (UTC)
I'm also on the fence.

Indecision may or may not be my problem.

I can buy the ticket, but...I just don't know. It's a tough call.

Because Dr. Horrible Live. Etc.
dragonfly_sg1
Oct. 3rd, 2015 03:42 am (UTC)
Okay, what is this Dr. Horrible Live thing at Dragon Con? I must know. I'm familiar with the sing along blog.
jackwabbit
Oct. 3rd, 2015 03:08 pm (UTC)
Have you ever seen Rocky Horror Picture Show?

Seen it seen it, not on TV or whatever. But at the theater, where people act it out on a stage while it plays behind or beside them?

That.

With Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog.

I attended the event the first time they did it, and maybe a few more times, but then started skipping it just because it's always full and you have to stand in line to get in/it's very popular.

And THEN I met werewulf online through a little fic I wrote about her favorite character in DHSAB.

Turns out werewulf is propmaster/head wrangler for Dr. Horrible Live.

And last year, she needed extras for the performance. I signed on relatively last minute and played many small roles. A duck in the park, a person in the various crowds, and Snake Bite in the ELE (she's the one with her feet on the table - yep, that's me).

I had so much fun. I'd forgotten what live performance is like, and though this is small time, it's a huge fan favorite at DC, and it was a blast to be in it. I also met sorcyress there, and that friendship has enriched my life.

So.

These days, they only do Dr. Horrible Live every other year. Next year is one. (They had to split up that and The Buffy Horror Picture Show because doing both was creating problems due to huge appeal/crowds, etc. They used to play back-to-back.)

I ran into werewulf at this year's DC and she told me there would likely be some openings for some bigger parts next year and I told her I would do whatever was needed to help - I'd even consider a larger part, as long as I had time to prepare for it. I'm intimidated by a larger part in some ways, but I know DHSAB backwards and forwards and I could do any role if needed - I'd just have to work on the stage directions, etc. I've done last minute big roles before, and I could do it again if needed. I just want to help.

So...yeah. I don't want to miss that.

And there you go. Dr. Horrible Live.

You can finds clips on YouTube if you want.

Oh, and when I was walking on one of the Skybridges this year, I heard a fan lamenting the lack of Dr. Horrible Live this year. He wanted both shows every year. I couldn't help but comment on the why of the change and he was all, like, "Oh. OK. That makes sense. But I want Dr. Horrible!" Who doesn't, my friend? Who doesn't?
arctict
Oct. 3rd, 2015 03:23 am (UTC)
I vowed to be done with cons after Chicago last year. Had a great experience but felt I was done. But I will be getting a ticket for this one. Had more than a couple friends contact me about going. Never been to a Gatecon, seeing Amanda, Michael, and RDA together, Vancouver, and seeing some friends I haven't seen in years convinced me to try to go. I wish I had more time to spend before or after the con because I love Vancouver. Good luck with your decision!
jackwabbit
Oct. 3rd, 2015 05:35 am (UTC)
Hm...decisions, decisions...
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